The Daily Incite - March 19, 2008

Submitted by Mike Rothman on Wed, 2008-03-19 10:04.
Today's Daily Incite

March 19, 2008 - Volume 3, #28

Good Morning:
Man, what a week and it's only Wednesday. I feel like I'm in tar. The more I get done, the more that isn't getting done. Got to love the old hamster wheel. But that's not what I want to talk about today. Basically, it's about peer pressure. I hate peer pressure, but that's just what I got at SourceBoston regarding Twitter. When I questioned the value of telling everyone what I'm up to at every minute of the day - it was like I'm an alien. Or as Martin so kindly put it, a "Luddite!" Although I do know how to spell.

Yes, Rothman is a LudditeTo be fair to Twitter, I can see how useful it is during a conference. You can heckle someone without getting punched in the head. You and your friends can share jokes about the smelly AV guy (and the AV guy at SourceBoston was quite smelly - take a shower bro!). And it does seem to be quick. But for daily activities - I still don't get it. Right, I'm a Luddite.

So I figured I'd share how Twitter would go down for me on a typical day.

Rothman 6:30 AM: Up and Leah is bitching to me about her outfit. Every frickin' morning.
Rothman 7:15 AM: Leah off to the bus. Twins are coloring. Need to make them breakfast. Twins throwing crayons at each other. Another day in the life.
Rothman 8:00 AM: Boss is up, I'm in the office. Scratching my ass. Maybe I should shower more often.

But of course, I can't forget the social aspect of Twitter.

AShimmy - 8:05 AM: Scratching my ass too. Lots of fruit flies here in Boca.
McKeay - 6:10 AM: Got up early to scratch Rich's ass - virtually of course. There is some kind of funky red residue. Don't ask.
MediaPhyter - 7:15 AM: Finally found my Blackberry case. Also has a funky red residue. I'm not going to ask either.
Rothman - 10:30 AM: Forget this security stuff. We need to have an ass scratchers meet-up. Maybe after the blogger meet-up at RSA. Anyone game? I'll bring the latex.
Jack Daniel - 11 AM: Anyone have a mixer? I'm thinking Coke Zero, though it turns your intestines into mush.
Beaker - 11:15 AM: Just changed the name of my blog. Again. Survivability isn't any fun. It's all about sustainability. Rational Sustainability. Like we have to sustain all these crazy social networking things, even though there is very little value and even less of a revenue model.


Right. I don't quite get the value, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to try Twitter. I probably will. But when I want to. Like when my Mom offered me $100 to lose weight when I was 17. I promptly gained another 20. I guess I'm just difficult that way. I do stuff when I want to - not when everyone else wants me to.

Have a great day.


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Submitted by shrdlu (not verified) on Wed, 2008-03-19 11:04.

Some of us aren't Luddites -- it's just that some of us realize that Twitter isn't much different from IM, which is soooo fifteen years ago. We're ahead of our time, not behind it. ;-)

 

 

Submitted by Christofer Hoff (not verified) on Wed, 2008-03-19 12:46.

Mike:

Methinks you missed the point of my post.

Rather than play comment pong, I posted a reply over here for you.

http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/03/no-good-deed-go.html

/Hoff

 

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