The Daily Incite - May 20, 2008

Submitted by Mike Rothman on Tue, 2008-05-20 10:09.
Today's Daily Incite

May 20, 2008 - Volume 3, #49

Good Morning:
Darwin was not wrong. He may not have been right about everything, but when it comes to natural selection - he was right on the money. It's all about adapt or die. We see it every day. In your business, in your life - if you can't see what's happening and act accordingly, it doesn't work out too well for you. Yet, if you can embrace the changes and you get pretty lucky - then you can prosper in the new world order.

These guys aren't old!I bring this up because this is my summer of concerts. The Boss and I do see a lot of live music. We live pretty modestly, but do enjoy seeing great bands play great music. Tonight I'm going to see the Eagles, and later on this summer I'll see Chicago and the Doobies, Steely Dan, Rush, Boston/Styx, R.E.M, and probably a bunch others. If I wasn't travelling a bit over the summer Dave Matthews and Tom Petty would be on the list as well.

Let's just say TicketMaster loves me.

We do see some contemporary acts as well, but there is nothing like seeing a skeleton with a guitar get up there and play songs I know every word to. And for that I pay a princely sum.

These artists from the 70s and 80s have adapted. Most haven't had a "hit" on the charts for years. But they sell out concert halls at $150 a ticket. Guess where the money is in music nowadays. You have bands giving away their music, if only to stimulate demand for their shows. I know, I know. None of this is new. Bands like the Dead, Phish, and Widespread Panic have used this model for years. And it's worked for them.

And the record companies sit there and haven't adapted. They've sued the crap out of housewives in Wichita and college students in Bakersfield. Even high schoolers as well. Their business has been upended and they haven't adapted. Right, it's ugly and it's going to get even uglier.

The Eagles distributed their last album exclusively through Wal-Mart. That was a pain, since I like to get my music from Amazon, but evidently WMT is paying the band 4 TIMES the royalty payout on each unit. So they'll sell 25% of the number of albums as their Greatest Hits packages, and make just as much. And by the way, Wal-Mart also makes more per unit because they don't have to cut in the record company on the deal. That's called a win-win, unless you are the record company.

But some companies are adapting and bringing new models to the music business. Folks like LiveNation, who have no issue making 9-figure commitments to lock in touring revenue from artists (like Madonna and Jay-Z) that will put asses in seats. Will it pay off for LiveNation? Time will tell. I can only say I'd rather be on the concert side of the business rather than the recorded music business. I personally will spend 20x the amount on concerts this summer as I will on recorded music.

How does that apply to security? I'm not sure. I don't study these other industries and markets because I think everything is directly related to my day job. Although there have been a number of times that I've been able to relate a problem in the security business to something I've seen in another industry. If you are one-dimensional (all security, all the time) then you can't have that perspective.

So fire up iTunes, renew your subscription to Fortune, expand your brain a bit and have a great day.

Photo: "Phil and Justice love to play Califone" originally uploaded by benprks

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Hope that fire alarm has good batteries
So what? - Ryan Naraine (back on his Zero Day perch) brings up some interesting perspectives on Web 2.0 disclosure. He uses an example of a bug in Zoho Writer to illustrate the need (or maybe the not need) to disclose when personal information may have been violated. First of all, how is Zoho going to know when someone has private information in a specific document? Second, if you store your personal information in the cloud, and it doesn't have like 15 layers of security (like the my1password service), then you are an idiot. These online word processors are wonderful for collaboration - but if I'm doing something really sensitive, then I use friggin' Word and I password protect the document. But back to disclosure, given a lot of stuff is going to be in the cloud over time. I have mixed feelings because I know many of us are already numb to the constant flow of data breaches. If you start sending out alerts every time you fix a bug (without confirmation that it's been exploited), then we are going to start ignoring it. Yet, on the other hand (there is always another hand, isn't there?), people have a right to know. So basically, we are right back where we started. A murky vulnerability discourse discussion. And I suspect we'll have a similar outcome. These issues will be disclosed in the press and on blogs and the service providers will respond. 
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All praise the big disk in the sky
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Green bar <> panacea
So what? - Rich loved my reminding everyone that pretty much everything is vulnerable. And yes Rich, I get that rootkits are different. As if we needed one, here is another reminder that we really can't trust anything. It seems PayPal was open to a XSS attack, but given PayPal's adoption of the extended validation SSL certs (to turn your address bar that wonderful shade of green) - your little XSS attack gets the benefit of the green bar. Once again, the point is that you need to focus as much effort on containment as anything else that you do. XSS and CSRF are going to happen and even the most savvy of people are going to fall for it. Thus, you better have your act together to respond, contain the damage and ensure it doesn't happen again, even though it will. No, what we do isn't futile, but if we expect to be successful all the time - I figure that would be pretty delusional.
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The Laundry List

  1. I've stayed out of the US Air Force bot army discussion, and a good thing I did. All you need to know is written by the Tao Master himself, who slices this idea into bite sized pieces. - TaoSecurity blog
  2. Brand protection must be a real business, since the Big Yellow is getting into it. How long before someone snaps up Cyveillance and the other dwarfs in the space?  - Symantec release
  3. That HackerSafe deal just keeps paying dividends for McAfee. Now the guy in charge of ScanAlert's security services is under indictment for securities fraud. Maybe HackerSafe doesn't scan for that either. - NetworkWorld coverage
  4. 10 more universities qualify for the NSA's information assurance designation. I wonder how much the big pipe from the universities servers to NSA's servers cost? Kidding, I think. - NetworkWorld coverage

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Communicating risk. How about: "we're all screwed!"
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http://riskmanagementinsight.com/riskanalysis/?p=351
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People costs are not on the spreadsheet...
Mark Shavlik can only scratch his head when presented with information from the Big G about how inefficient Microsoft's WSUS turns out to be. First of all, G tends to focus on the super-large enterprises and we all know that large enterprise isn't Microsoft's bag, baby! But kidding aside, everyone in a market that competes against a Microsoft or a Cisco or even a Symantec, needs to figure out how to combat good enough. The technology works, but it's usually bundled into a big deal and most procurement processes don't factor in the operational costs of doing something. Sure, there was a push to try to quantify TCO a while back, but in this kind of macro-environment, it's still easier to whip your folks to work a bit harder - then to write a check for technology that may (or may not) make things more efficient. The G says to look at point solutions for patch management, and that may even be the right thing to do. But most companies won't, until they start to measure (and compensate) managers on productivity - as opposed to capital budget efficiency.
http://shavlik.typepad.com/mark_shavliks_blog/2008/05/garnter-note-on.html
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Will virtualizing security cost more than we save from virtualizing servers?
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http://rationalsecurity.typepad.com/blog/2008/05/virtualizing-se.html
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