The Daily Incite - August 10, 2007

Submitted by Mike Rothman on Fri, 2007-08-10 09:18.
Today's Daily Incite

August 10, 2007 - Volume 2, #118

Good Morning:
I hate Vista. Well hate is a pretty strong word, so let me think about it for a second or two. Yup, it's hate. Why? Because a computer is a tool. It's supposed to help me save time and do things more effectively. My new Vista PC doesn't do that. It costs me time. I guess after a few months of this misery I'll actually figure out how it works and maybe not have to reboot so much. Maybe I'll get used to the constant UAC dialogs or just turn it off. Maybe I'll get used to how sucky Symantec is, but probably not. Once I pull the screen shots I need for my summer project, Symantec is gone. I'll go with some other endpoint security product.

I should have bought the iMac, though I would have missed the cool new upgrade. I have lots of excuses as to why the PC was the right thing to buy, but they all ring hollow right now. Especially as I remember my experience trying to get a video card to work yesterday. Oh yeah, nVidia sucks too. Evidently they've only had 8 months to get their Vista drivers working and they still can't get it done well. You didn't get a TDI yesterday because I went into Captain Ahab mode and had to figure out how to get the Windows Aero feature working with my dual monitors.

I feel horrible about it, but Captain Ahab was definitely in the house yesterday. I just couldn't let it go. It made no sense to me why a brand new machine with 2 GB of RAM and a video card with 512 MB onboard wouldn't be able to run Aero on two monitors. So I futzed with all the settings, downloaded and re-downloaded the crappy drivers a bunch of times, and rebooted what seemed like a million times. I was right, I finally did get my whale. Turns out, you can select the Aero interface by going to Control Panel -> Personalization -> Window Color and Appearance. Who knew?

Vista doesn't just work. Not by a long shot and I kind of know what I'm doing. At least I'm not alone. InformationWeek's Alexander Wolfe talks about what he hates about Vista as well. Say what you want about Apple being a closed system, but it just works. I'm way past the phase where I get excited about having to solve these kinds of problems. Now it's just really annoying.

Let me turn my ire towards Symantec for a bit as well. I was doing a webcast yesterday and I needed to get to the LiveMeeting service to push my slides. So I pop open IE (which I use sparingly for things like LiveMeeting that don't work in Firefox) and no dice. Can't navigate to the page and the time before the event is supposed to start is ticking away. Crap! What to do? Basically as a last ditch effort I shut down Symantec (after about 10 UAC prompts) and lo and behold, it worked. There were no warnings, no user communication - it just wouldn't let me navigate to a LiveMeeting web page. What the hell is that about?

The PC ecosystem is broken. I broke out the piggy bank and will be saving my pennies until I can buy that new iMac. I should be able to get 30 or 40 cents on the dollar for the PC on eBay. Or maybe I'll just donate it to a worthy cause and take the tax write-off. Maybe I'll even earn some karma points for all this misery. You see, I'm trying to stay optimistic.

Have a great weekend. I'll have the uncommon pleasure of waiting in my house on Saturday for the DirecTV folks to come by and fix my service. I guess when it rains it pours. Arghhhh.

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Deal: EMC/RSA buys into the DLP space
So what? - Sometimes being late on something works out. For instance, if I did the TDI as I was supposed to yesterday, I wouldn't be able to rant about EMC buying Tablus. There have been lots of rumblings for a long time about EMC buying into DLP. It makes a lot of sense since EMC is all about doing stuff to drive more spindle sales and managing data leakage certainly adds value to the storage end. The real question was who would they buy? The pretty consistent rumor had been Vericept, but evidently not. There are actually two schools of thought in buying into a pretty early market. Take out the market leader (or initial leader anyway) and pay a premium, as evidenced by Netscreen/Neoteris. Or you can buy some technology for cheap and wait for the market to develop. Without having a firm deal size, I have to go out on a limb and figure EMC opted for the latter approach. Which makes a lot of sense. We do wave our hands a lot about DLP, but it's still very very early in that market.
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PCI in 60 days? HOGWASH
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Stopping the scourge of XSS
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But I can't even keep track of my own stuff...
Rebecca Herold makes a good point about an issue that we are first starting to scratch the surface on. Basically, we are responsible for what our trading/business partners do. If they lose our data and violate our customer's trust - guess who is responsible? Right. So how do you check into this stuff? It's not easy, but I think the answer is listed above when I talked about SoundBite getting PCI compliant. Is PCI the acid test for good security? Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on what you are trying to do. And a SAS 70 isn't either. But a 3rd party verifiable audit and certification will become a critical aspect of deciding who to do business with. The reality is that we have a hard enough time keeping on top of our own stuff. There is no way we can do it for other folks, so we'll need to rely upon auditors, etc. to vouch for the business partner. Yes, I know this creates an Andersen/Enron type of opportunity to deceive, but what other options are there? I'm all ears.
http://www.realtime-itcompliance.com/information_security/2007/08/you_will_be_judged_by_the_comp.htm
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And they didn't even wear masks
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http://www.theinnovationjunction.com/2007/08/gmail-hijacking.html
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More PCI wisdom from AndyITGuy
Since it's all PCI all the time here at the Incite, I may as well point to a good piece my friend AndyITGuy wrote on his experiences. In his new gig, Andy has a PCI compliance burden, as well as working for a huge entity that didn't really have a security group until Andy got there. Now that sounds like a lot of fun. I'll take the dental drill scene from Marathon Man, thank you very much. That seems more enjoyable. But seriously, PCI is pretty straight forward, but unless you've been working on it and have your infrastructure in decent shape - it's going to be a long and hard road to get there (and longer than 60 days). The good news is that we've gotten more specificity about what the regulations mean over time (try to implement HIPAA with any sense of precision), but it still gets back to a basic truth. If your security program is strong and well-run, this compliance stuff is a walk in the park.
http://andyitguy.blogspot.com/2007/08/pci-and-your-network.html
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Submitted by LonerVamp (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-10 10:17.

They said we couldn't run the 4 minute mile either! But if you buy my cool blue appliance and plug it into your network, you'll be PCI-compliant in the 30 days it takes for my baby to evolve and take control of everything!

 Ok, I'm being a dork, but it's Friday.... :)

Submitted by Matt (not verified) on Fri, 2007-08-10 11:13.
I've been very happy with Trend's endpoint product, sold online via download (no yellow box) and not nearly as intrusive as SYMC. On XP, of course!

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