The Daily Incite - July 31, 2008
July 31, 2008 - Volume 3, #66
Good Morning:
I have to admit, the Internet has made me nicer. Now, I wouldn't go
around saying I'm like nice or anything. But understanding how the
blogosphere works and the fact that Google never forgets (it truly has
photographic memory) makes me a nicer person.

Since most of the folks that know me well wouldn't say that "nice" is
one of the ways they'd describe me, I'll provide some context. A while
back the Mogull was complaining about those sploggers that steal
syndicated feeds and put up web sites that sell ads around someone
else's content. He even ran a pretty
funny experiment
to see if they pay any attention to what shows up in the feeds. It's a
deplorable practice, but it also must be working because I see another
one of these sites (stealing my content) popping up weekly.
There are lots of different opinions about how to deal with this. I've
chosen to not allow my feed to be syndicated without permission. It's
my content and that's what I decided to do. Basically I ask (nicely I
might add) for the content thief to stop syndicating my content. Most
of the time these folks don't have an email address on the site (though
I'm sure they have a place to deliver the AdSense commissions), so I'll
leave a comment. Failing that, I lodge a complaint through FeedBurner
and within a month or so that usually takes care of it.
Though I did get a pretty nasty response back from one of the
webmasters, saying no one has ever asked to be removed from his site
before and basically implying that I'm some kind of idiot. Didn't I
know that it's very expensive to run a site that steals other people's
content? How dare I question his ability to monetize my work (which
I've chosen not to monetize).
Before the blogosphere, the "old" Mike would have ripped this guy
apart. I would have sent one of my patented nasty-grams (anyone that
has worked with me for any length of time has probably experienced it)
and that would be that. But I didn't send a nasty-gram. In fact, I sent
a very cordial response back saying it was a personal decision and
thanked him for doing such great work to aggregate some
much great content. Yes, I blew some smoke into his backside.
Huh? Have I become some kind of wimpy, sniveling lame butt? I guess if
I'm being candid, sort of. I'm just very sensitive to the "TechCrunch"
effect. Basically, if I sent a nasty-gram and told this guy
what I really thought of him and how he's a drag on society and adds no
redeeming value. That his parents should be ashamed of him and that if
he had any kind of original thought or brain activity he would publish
his own stuff, instead of stealing mine. But I didn't because I figured
he would turn around and post it in a high profile
place. And then I'd be the one that looked like a schmuck.
So there you have it, now I'm a nicer guy because I know when I'm not,
it'll show up on some web site and make me look like an ass. I guess
it's kind of a deterrent in that sense. To be clear, I'm not any nicer,
I just understand that venom and vitriol should be delivered in ways
that cannot be cut and pasted onto TechCrunch.
Have a great weekend.
PS: If you didn't see, the P-CSO
was reviewed on Slashdot. Woo Hoo.
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Top Security News
Is there are "secure enough?"
So what? -
I tend to say "good enough" at least a couple of times a day. I believe
that given the opportunity, we'd hit the point of diminishing returns
in security pretty frequently. Fact is, most of us don't get the
resources or funding that we need to hit that point, but ultimately we
need to get comfortable with the concept of "good enough." Until
someone figures out how to turn security from overhead into revenue
generation (and Ken,
don't send me that friggin'
white paper again :-), we'll still be in the same boat. Jai
Vijayan does a little analysis of
"secure enough" and it brings up some interesting points.
Many of which are echoed in the P-CSO methodology. You know, figure out
how secure you can/should be. Then understand "asset value," but
personally I don't care about true value - but rather RELATIVE value.
I'm trying to figure out what the most important assets are to protect.
Then I need to implement a control framework (though that it much
easier said than done). Check. Then measure and monitor. I think
monitoring is critical, measurement is a nice to have. Not that it's
not important to pull metrics, I just think there are a lot of things
that can be measured that shouldn't. And the industry hasn't gotten any
sense of agreement on what those things (to measure) should be. Overall
this is a good article because it factors in the reality that we aren't
going to get everything done and we need a structure to make sure that
good enough is really good enough.
Link to this
I want to get out of that little
car
So what? -
Looks like Linus Torvalds
(yes, the Linux dude) is
aiming some of his angst (maybe about creating a bunch of multi-billion
dollar revenue streams and not getting dick out of it) towards the
"security circus." If this is a circus, I want to be one of
the clowns that gets out of the little car. That looks like fun. It's
easy for someone who just sits in an ivory tower and worrys about
kernel issues to be very critical of how security researchers choose to
promote themselves. In fact, I do that all the time. I don't worry
about kernel issues, but certainly spend a good part of every day in my
own little ivory tower. The point Linus is trying to make is that
security is sensationalized and it's a problem. Unfortunately, he
thinks that taking a middle of the road approach of not pandering to
either the no or full disclosure ranks is the right path. Unfortunately
that doesn't work either and can be more dangerous than anything else.
Ask Dan Kaminsky about that. I'm still of the opinion that it's either
all or nothing. Either don't disclose at all, and work with the vendors
in the background - hoping that the bad guys don't have the attack. Or
disclose IT ALL and get the good guys making tools to hopefully stay
ahead of the bad guys. Both ways kind of suck, but at the end of the
day this is the bed we made (crappy code with no thought to security) -
so now we get to sleep in it.
Link to this
And the benefits are great...
So what? -
The grass is always greener on the other side. Fact is, if you work in
the security business, odd are the grass looks like crap wherever it is
you squat. It seems the vendor security researchers are a little
steamed that independents get all the attention for finding the "cool"
security bugs. Just because they don't have anything better to do, the X-Force
ran some numbers to prove that it's
really the vendor researchers that find 80% of the "critical" bugs.
Talk about needing a hug. Would someone in Armonk please fly down to
Atlanta and tell the X-Force guys that you still love them. That
someone in a blue suit actually gives a
crap about what they find. Or maybe this is a recruiting technique.
Join the X-Force and
find the important stuff. That's much better than
going the independent route and becoming infamous and filling up your
Black Hat talk. All kidding aside, it just seems ridiculous to me that
anyone would be spending any time to figure out who was "more right."
The bad guys are finding new stuff all day, I suggest the researchers
(whether they are independents or vendors) get back to work.
Link to this
The Laundry
List
- HD was not pwned, just misquoted and had the unfortunate luck of actually using AT&T for Internet connectivity. Yes, the fact that his company was impacted by his exploit code is ironic, but the mischaracterization in the media is irresponsible. - Metasploit blog
- Deal: Aladdin uses one of their wishes (and $65 million) to buy SafeWord from SCUR. Good for SCUR to focus on their gateway business. Good luck to Aladdin, I hear it's easy to compete with RSA and $5 tokens from everyone else. - Aladdin release
- Georgia boy hacks into his school. Must be taking the Mitnick approach to fame and fortune. Hack a bit, add KY and then write a book. Publishers line up, the book should be ready in about 2015. - NetworkWorld coverage
- Is Big Yellow rebounding? They announce a good FQ1. Evidently executing less than "sucky" actually works. And someone should be measuring Enrique's head for the crown. - Symantec earnings release
- Lots of other earnings news as well. SonicWall does OK. Zix also announces (why are these guys still public?), and Entrust shows that they still can't hit the top line number. All three mention the "challenging business environment." I guess that's a code word for "give me a pass, it's brutal out there."
Top Blog Postings
I'll take one defeat and despair to
go...
It's fact that you have to have a certain type of personality to be a
security professional. Paranoia is critical, since the really are
trying to get us at all times. But there is a downside to being able to
focus on negative use cases all day long, every day. Basically we
become grumpy and prone to despair. Amrit tries to provide some context
around the fact that "This too shall pass" is a good way to look at
things. A mentor of mine would constantly remind me that it was a
marathon, not a sprint. We need to play for the long term, even though
many of the incentive plans (both positive and negative incentives) are
all about short term actions and thinking. Amrit believes that the good
guys have a lot going for us and that we actually have an "advantage."
Part of this is trying to make lemonade out of a bunch of crap, but he
does have some good points. Yet the net is the world is a resilient
place. Every time you get backed up against the ropes, the collective
we
finds a way out of it. Yes, it's hard to keep that context in the
morass of daily firefighting and the like, but it's true. The sun will
rise tomorrow, just like it has for a billion years. Until it doesn't
and then we probably have bigger problems to worry about.
http://techbuddha.wordpress.com/2008/07/24/the-art-of-security-and-why-security-vendors-are-the-root-of-all-internet-evil/
Link
to this
If that's the wrong problem,
what's the right problem?
Sir Ivan makes a great point here about the real root cause of our
security issues. "Underneath
all our security issues lies our inability to write defect-free code.
Solve that and we've solved the security issues. Focus on the security
alone and we won't solve anything." I agree with the
sentiment, but can't for the life of me figure out how we'd get there.
Food for thought over the weekend.
http://blog.ivanristic.com/2008/07/ive-come-to-rea.html
Link
to this
"Perfect" measurement? Give up
now.
Perfect is the enemy of the good. So when I see the title of this post
on BlogInfoSec "Crossing the Metrics Rubicon: Quest for the Perfect
Measurement" I turn my nose up and figure it's yet another highly
theoretical idea about what should be counted and why. But to Patrick
Foley's credit, this isn't that post. It's really about the fact that
we have a lot more data now, but no one has figured out how to turn it
into information. Most interestingly, he points to some securities
trading and insurance models that could be instructive in what we have
to do. But there will always be problems with models, since they can't
predict what we don't know. And it seems every attack that has ever
made a big wave was NOT predicted by the people that are supposed to be
predicting. So I don't want data to help me predict what is at risk. I
want data to help me understand whether I'm working efficiently. I'm
starting to come to the conclusion that you can't necessarily come up
with a number to represent "risk," but you can count and measure
efficiency of the "right" stuff that we know needs to happen. I'm kind
of throwing some crap against the wall here, but my utter frustration
relative to almost all things metrics is forcing me to look at the
problem from a very different perspective.
http://www.bloginfosec.com/2008/07/18/crossing-the-metrics-rubicon-quest-for-the-perfect-measurement/
Link
to this



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