The Daily Incite - June 24, 2008

Submitted by Mike Rothman on Tue, 2008-06-24 09:29.
Today's Daily Incite

June 24, 2008 - Volume 3, #59

Good Morning:
As I've mentioned, this is the summer of concerts for me. Though it should be really called the "Champions Tour," because it seems every act I'm going to see is over 50. Right, just like the golf tour - but it seems the purses keep going up in the music business. No wonder I heard on the radio yesterday that the Stones are thinking about another world tour. And if the rumors of a Zeppelin world tour come to fruition - I'll be there.
That's right. STFU!
Welcome to the new music business, which is fine. Even if the record labels aren't adapting fast enough, it's good to see the artists evolving and making sure they can still live the life depicted in Nickelback's "Rock Star" song. It must be nice.  

I mean even the New Kids on the Block are back together and touring. Sorry, but I'll be passing on that show, but they are able to fill 10,000 seats. Which is horrifying, but whatever? The NKOTB fans probably think I'm crazy for going to see bands like Steely Dan and Boston.

Or R.E.M. The Boss and I went to see Atlanta's own hometown rock band on Saturday night. And that's what I want to rant about today. I'm sure out of the 12,000 or so folks at the show, the 10 most rude happened to be seated right next to us. Arghhh.

First up is the talking. I just love those people that go to a show and proceed to talk about their nails or their goiters or whatever. But since they are at a ROCK CONCERT, they have to scream at the top of their lungs to be heard. Well guess what? That means everyone around them also gets to hear about their goiters. Thankfully the Boss is a tough broad, and she just gets right up into the grills of these folks and tells them to talk after the show. 

Then there is the smoking. Evidently empirical evidence that smoking KILLS you means nothing to these folks. Maybe it's the rebellious stage, but when you see a 50-something smoking away, you hope they carry decent life insurance. Actually, I don't hope because I don't care what they do. But they are kind enough to share their second hand smoke with me for the entire show. Arghhh.

Of course, we can't forget about the drunk ass that leaves his seat every 15 minutes to get another big draft beer. Listen, I'm the last guy to come down on someone for being a drunk ass, but I try my best not to spill 75% of my draft before I get back to my seat. Yes, watching a show isn't as comfortable when you are drenched with someone else's nasty beer.

I'm sure I could go on all day, but what's the point of that? I guess my only choice is to laugh. It's not like I'm going to stop going to shows. So that means I'll need to deal with the talkers and smokers and drunk asses. And I'll like it.

Have a great day.

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How good do we think we are?
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Two years and counting for NAC vendors
So what? - It seems the Big G now figures that NAC startups have two years before they are "flattened" by Cisco and Microsoft. Hmmm. Basically, their thinking is that a large portion of their client base (large enterprises) are predominately Cisco and Microsoft, so if you wait long enough the big vendors will stop screwing it up and close off the market for everyone else. I'm not one to look for shades of gray, but in this case the world really isn't so black and white. First of all, we need to separate out the NAC client vs. the NAC infrastructure, which is really the network infrastructure. Microsoft will dominate the NAC client. In fact, I don't know of anyone that is actually still trying to win that battle. Maybe the start-ups still have their own agents, but that's a matter of history and convenience. No one is blowing smoke in my rear about having huge client market share. Now as I've said a LOT, NAC functionality becomes weaved into the fabric of the network. Thus internal network security (note, Mr. Hoff, that I said NETWORK security) will largely be a feature of the switches you have running your campus. In two years? Unlikely. I'm talking about a generational shift, and those take 5-7 years - best case. Now I will concede that NAC start-ups that want to sell for a premium have a fixed window, and candidly I think 2 years is too long. The bigger players that have crappy NAC and no strategy or ability to build it will figure that out over the next year. Then they'll start buying stuff. So the risk for the NAC start-ups isn't being flattened, it's being the irrelevance of being the last one standing.
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The call of security management - more data!
So what? - Saw an announcement from ArcSight cross the wires this morning, about a new set of integrations between SIEM and Identity Management. Normally I don't like to cover product announcements and certainly not Barney partnerships, but this one is interesting. Why? Remember that the REACT FASTER doctrine (and Mogull's React BETTER corollary) are all based upon the data that you collect and your ability to mine it for gold. Being able to correlate actions within the IT infrastructure and trace those back to a specific user is cool. These IP to ID bridges have been in place for about 18 months. It seems this pushes things a bit further in actually working with the policy engines in the IdM platforms to figure out whether an action is actually acceptable. Personally, that seems a bit like a holy grail and I'm not sold on it actually working (Barney releases are easy, true technical integration at enterprise scale is hard), but the concept is pretty interesting. In order to contain damage, you need to know where to look and being able to leverage policies out of the IdM environment can provide some really cool information to help a skilled analyst narrow down the issues a lot faster, and that is what reacting faster is all about. On another note, ArcSight announced their earnings last week (conference call transcript) and they should be applauded for their second quarter of anti-FIRE behavior (right, they actually made their numbers).
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The Laundry List

  1. NAC market up 16% year over year? According to Infonetics anyway. Fratto has it right, why would be get excited about a net $10 million increase in a market that's supposed to be "exploding." - InformationWeek's Analytics Blog
  2. Both of Big Research release their DLP market reports (MQ and Wave) within a week and the results are largely consistent. Seems like collusion to me (either that or they just believe what the vendors tell them). - Symantec in DLP MQ SearchSecurity on Forrester
  3. Drinks are on Jeremiah! White Hat raises another $7 big ones. - White Hat release
  4. Is there a Trend in IBE encryption? Maybe, since Trend rebrands the Identum technology and stays true to IBE. - Trend release

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http://andyitguy.blogspot.com/2008/06/hello-my-name-is-andy-and-i-attend.html
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These are true public servants
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http://www.bloginfosec.com/2008/06/18/being-a-government-security-ciso-life-in-the-fishbowl/
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Wait! Stop the Presses! Security isn't a product!!!
I think I just set the record for the number of exclamation points in a snippet title. Bully for me. First off, I do want to recognize that in yesterday's Special Incite, I inadvertently painted Hoff into a virtualization security technical box. That was not my intention and Chris has been doing a lot of work to talk about many of the issues I described yesterday. To follow up on those thoughts, let's bring Amrito into the discussion and his post on security as an "operational" problem. This really gets to the heart of what I'm talking about when I say security is a feature and that it must be built into the infrastructure. Yes, we need our CSO to do the high level persuasion and to figure out what is most important to protect. Then our security architects figure out how that stuff needs to be protected. But then who actually protects it? Right, it should be the ops groups - but as Amrit points out this is a slow evolution. Both because many organizations are holding onto their security empires, but also because the vendors haven't necessarily integrated the tools that are required to make this kind of model work. I'm not in the excuses business, but the laggards aren't going to be creative to find a way to make it work. They'll wait until they have no other choice. So, as with everything else - it always takes longer than you expect and a lot longer than it should.
http://techbuddha.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/security-as-an-operational-problem/
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Submitted by Dana Hendrickson (not verified) on Tue, 2008-06-24 10:29.
Hi Mike. Your reaction to the recent Infonetics NAC market size estimates seems more than a little off-the-mark. Jeff Wilson reported that NAC sales were $62.5M in 1Q08 which with no growth would be $250M for this year. And Infonetics annual growth projections (http://www.infonetics.com/pr/2008/ms08.nac.2h07.nr.asp) for inline and out-of-band NAC - currently the largest two NAC categories - are between 40 and 50% though 2011. While I generally suspect all market research you have inadvertently misunderstood Infonetics "findings" and analysis. If the Infonetic numbers are anywhere close to what is/will happen these are pretty attractive for an immature security market segment. Agree?
Submitted by Bob Pratt (not verified) on Tue, 2008-06-24 11:09.

Speaking as one of your rare readers who actually grew up in Georgia, I have to point out that REM is NOT from Atlanta.  They are a product of Athens, Georgia, and us Athenians aren't ceding them to the big city types from Atlanta.

 Also, glad you liked our press release. Now we'll impress you with the actual functionality!

 

Bob

Submitted by Rick Caccia (not verified) on Tue, 2008-06-24 14:26.

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the mention about our new SIEM+IDM product, ArcSight IdentityView. I agree about avoiding barney releases...We have been working on this product since last year, and have put serious engineering work into it, including a new type of adapter that pulls user models out of IdM systems, new reports for user activity monitoring, a new single-ID mapping capability, and a new application of the profile creation technology we had used in other areas. The whole thing builds on the session correlation we added in ESM 4.0 - the architecture allows us to do some unique things.

The goal was to combine the user and role model info managed by IdM with the activity collection and correlation in our SIEM product, with the goal of understanding who is on the network, what info they are seeing, and which actions they are taking with that info. As you point out, if you have this, you can react faster, and also more effectively.

We introduced the partner program for this at RSA (recall that I briefed you on this), and IdentityView is our first product within that program. We don't see anything else quite like it, in terms of actual product, in the market. If you happen to be at Catalyst this week, we are demoing it and I can show it to you.

-Rick

 

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