The Daily Incite - May 14, 2007

Submitted by Mike Rothman on Mon, 2007-05-14 08:33.
Today's Daily Incite

May 14, 2007 - Volume 2, #78

Good Morning:
Another Monday. It's hard to believe but this school year is pretty much over, down here in the South anyway. The twins have one week left and Leah two weeks and then "school's out for summer." It's actually pretty cute, since the kids still like school, they think it's fun. Which is great, I hope they always think that way. They probably won't, especially with all the pressure to achieve nowadays, but we can hope - right?

It was also a big weekend around the house, with it being Mother's Weekend and all. Right, it's not just a day - it's a weekend. I figure next year, it may be an entire week. We started the festivities by seeing Gwen Stefani on Friday night and she put on a great show, despite torrential rains as everyone was entering the joint. Nothing like having a soaked-through shirt and shorts for a few hours. But it was fun.

Then we did the typical weekend, I get up and head to the gym with the kids each day while the Boss kicks back and enjoys the silence. I do let her sleep in on Mother's Day, which is nice since the twins are battling the Rooster for break of dawn wake up duties. Finally, we've got our neighborhood garage sale this week, so it's time to get rid of all the crap that has accumulated over the past year. It really is scary how much stuff piles up. My new favorite toy is actually an old piece of equipment - the trusty hand-truck. I love my hand-truck. 250 lb TV, no problem. Treadmill - quick work. Did I mention that I love the hand truck. If you don't have one, you are missing out.

Though this year's garage sale will be a little weird, since we are selling the cribs and a big-ass double stroller. It really hits home that the kids are growing up. It's a good thing, since the twins are almost human now and hold "sort of" conversations. We're not ready for Relativity yet, though they are very conversant about Buzz Lightyear. I wonder what Einstein would say about Buzz? The days of inert blobs of mass just hanging out and drooling on themselves are gone, for about 70-80 years anyway. I guess I should start looking forward to the days when they are changing my diaper and putting a bib on me, so I don't drool through my dentures and ruin my shirts.

On that fine note, have a great day.

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Submitted by Christofer Hoff (not verified) on Mon, 2007-05-14 08:55.

Aw, shucks, Mike. I didn't realize I'd complicated things with big words like "Identity Management." ;)

As I mentioned, URM is a model where each of those little colored boxes actually has well-defined "stuff"

in them -- including products and actual implementation glue -- such that rather than just be a toothless

framework that tells you what to do without telling you how to do it, you can see what actually works.

 

I put up the URM piece because I found great similarity to Gunnar's model. I really don't see how it's

all that complicated myself...but then again (and as i stated) the real meat is in the expanded diagrams

that give up exactly what you asked for: " as opposed to keeping things at a very high, architectural level -

it would be very helpful to hear about how this stuff works in practice. Most of the folks I know actually have

to do things, as opposed to study them."

Fair enough. I'll start posting the mechanics...

/Hoff

 

 

Submitted by Igor Drokov (not verified) on Mon, 2007-05-14 10:21.

"...get to see a cute picture of my kids to show me it's the right site. But is it? Could even the picture be spoofed and taken by doing a remote database call on the picture server?"

Using this method is neither particularly secure and nor effective with real users. The security problem has demonstrated here:

http://paranoia.dubfire.net/2007/04/deceit-augmented-man-in-middle-attack.html

and effectiveness (or lack of thereof) - here:

http://www.usablesecurity.org/emperor/ - 97% of users in their study chose to login despite the image being not present.

 

 

Submitted by Kai Roer (not verified) on Mon, 2007-05-14 11:17.

Dear Mike,

 Thank you kindly for your listing and comments about my blogpost on two-factor authentication and man-in-the-middle attacks. Your Daily Incite is a great contribution to the blogsphere and I appreciate your commitment!

To your readers - Igor Drokov over at Security x.= has some interesting views on the topic too: http://blog.cronto.com/index.php?title=transaction_verification_can_protect_aga

Kai 

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