The Daily Incite - October 15, 2007

Submitted by Mike Rothman on Mon, 2007-10-15 07:50.
Today's Daily Incite

October 15, 2007 - Volume 2, #142

Good Morning:
When should you quit? I'm not being specific here, but basically to stop doing something. Maybe it's your job. Maybe it's a hobby. Maybe it's a new business or a product line or anything that you could stop doing. Breathing wouldn't be high on that list. Today I'm going to point you towards Seth Godin's The Dip. I just finished it and scarily enough it took me a couple of days to get through it. Since it's 80 small pages, that's just an indication of all the other stuff I have going on.

It's worth reading because it's something that we all struggle with. When should we quit and when should we stick with it. I have to make these kinds of decisions every day. Should I continue to write the Daily Incite? It does take a lot of time a couple of days per week. What about the Pragmatic CSO, do I keep doing that newsletter each week? And know I'm in the hard phase of Security Mike's Guide. It's turned into a bigger project than I envisioned and although I know it's needed - it sure would be easier to get an extra hour or two of sleep and maybe take a day off here or there.

There is clearly a balance between persistence and stupidity. Sometimes you have to just come to grips with the fact that it isn't going to get better. A discussion broke out on a mailing list I'm on over the weekend about how to deal with some anonymous work colleagues that sucker-punched a blogger who writes about work (albeit anonymously) on his blog. Does he fire back at them on his blog? Does he just quit?

A lot of that depends on his boss. Will his boss back him up? Has his boss even read his blog to know whether there are issues with what is being written? Or is the boss just parroting the lame detractors who don't want to change and are pushing for the status quo? It's certainly easier to parrot the lame and get out of the way. And if that's the case, this guy should probably start looking at Plan B.

Godin talks a lot about "If you aren't going to be #1, then you should quit now." I don't quite buy that, certainly not in a security role. There is no #1. There is no contest or play-off or even BCS rankings to show who is better than someone else. Maybe you get invited to Black Hat or DEFCON to show your stuff, but lots of folks get that. It's about being able to be successful - based on your (and your senior management's) definition of success, which usually means nothing bad happens. A good day is a day when nothing happens.

When things get tough, he does mention 3 questions that I think are right on the money:

  1. Are you panicking?
  2. Who are you trying to influence?
  3. What sort of measurable progress am I making?

I do suggest you read the book to get the full understanding of these questions. Suffice it to say that as I think about the questions that I asked up front - most of my thinking is based on laziness, so the good news is that I'm not really going to quit anything that I'm doing right now. I'm investing a lot of effort right now in getting my products completed and once that is done, I'm going to focus more on my go to market strategies - which have been suffering because I'm focused on building.

But I am going to be a lot more focused next year. I do want to be #1 in a lot of things - and I think I can. But I also need to start failing faster. I need to try more stuff and see what works and what doesn't. I counsel countless people and tell them they are trying to do too much. Right now I fall into that category and this will persist for a little while. I'm considering my work overload as an investment right now because I'm focused on getting through the various "Dips" that I'm facing and getting through to the other side.

Think about what you do every day. Is is futile? Are you having fun? Will anything change? If not, then figure out Plan B. We all need to have Plan B. Have a great day.


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Submitted by David Utter (not verified) on Mon, 2007-10-15 09:33.

Mike, I don't think the problem is in reaching that 80 percent, or even 100 percent, of people with the typical security messages: don't open docs you aren't expecting, don't click on links in mail from untrusted senders, don't buy pharmaceuticals from spammers, etc.

The messages don't seem to stick. Spammers make money because people keep opening their mail and buying their stuff, or downloading a Trojan that makes the computer another bot.

When people keep making the same mistakes, especially the same people over and over, you have to ask much more critically if your education efforts merit the effort.

The education and initiative has to come at the gateway, not inside the network. Until ISPs start killing accounts for bot-infected machines, and security pros take the fight off the network and to the gateway, things will continue to get worse.

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