The Daily Incite - September 4, 2007

Submitted by Mike Rothman on Tue, 2007-09-04 08:45.
Today's Daily Incite

September 4, 2007 - Volume 2, #128

Good Morning:
I'm not a big fan of doing the same thing twice. It seems the most frequent words I say are "what did I just say?" My kids seem to need a bit of repetition, as most kids do, but it still makes me crazy. So the idea of having to fix something that I didn't do right the first time just makes me nuts.

Over the holiday weekend I took some time to work through the Honey-Do list that the Boss has been stockpiling for a while. The twin's B-day party is next weekend and we are having a ton of family come into town, so there was some urgency to get the things on the list done. First and second were fix the towel and toilet paper holders in the kid's bathrooms. Didn't I already do that? What could have happened, so I'd have to rehang a towel ring? Oh yeah, my kids hang on the things, so upon inspection it wasn't surprising that the crappy drywall anchors (the winged plastic crappy anchors) I used didn't hold up. The threaded drywall anchors didn't hold up much better and pretty much shredded the drywall. Fun fun.

So out came the old reliable toggle bolts and the drill. I feel pretty good that the towel ring will give out before the bolts now. I should have used the toggle bolts in the first place. But it was easier to use the crappy anchors bundled with the pieces. It all gets back to using the right tools for the job. I tend to be somewhat creative and very lazy, so I'll wrack my brain for 30 minutes trying to figure out how to pry open a paint can with a butter knife, rather than walk downstairs and get the paint tool. But the end result is pretty much always the same. The butter knife is shredded, the paint can is not open, and I'm 30 minutes behind.

The same lessons apply to security as well. A lot of us tend to be fairly creative and there is definitely a time and place for creativity. But trying to get an old firewall to do deep packet inspection and detect Layer 7 attacks? It's not going to happen folks. So use the right tool for the job. Unless you can get neither the money or resources, and then you get to improvise. But don't be surprised with they tear the anchors right out of the wall and you get to spend a Saturday doing the same job over again.

Have a great day.

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How about "Yes, but!"
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