Who cares about NAC standards?

Submitted by Mike Rothman on Fri, 2006-09-29 11:42.
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While I've got NAC on the brain, let me go after the standards discussion a bit. There was quite a bit of consternation regarding Cisco pulling out of the TCG a while back. Well actually pulling Meetinghouse out of the TCG after they were assimilated. In this post from a while back, Alan Shimel wonders how hard could it be to provide interoperability (here)? He's right, it wouldn't be hard. But it's still not going to happen.

Why? They are forgetting the first rule of market domination. The gorilla doesn't need or want standards. If anything, having a standard is a bad thing for a company trying to maintain 80% market share. Standards provide interoperability, which gives users choice. What vendor wants users to have choice? The only choice a gorilla wants the user to make is whether to finance a multi-million dollar purchase or buy it outright. Certainly not about whether to use competing products.

So what does the gorilla do? They change the discussion. They say they're working with the IETF - the only "real" standards body. That means they'll get a standard in 5 years when the market has matured and the gorilla has 80% market share. Perfect. That's not good enough for those folks wanting "interoperability." Fine, so they cut a deal with another gorilla to provide a visage of interoperability knowing full well the other gorilla won't have a product for 12-18 months, so they've got zero risk there. Of course I'm talking about the Cisco and Microsoft NAC/NAP announcement (here and here).

But if you are a customer, do you care? I think not. Everybody cries about vendor lock-in, but I think this is a red herring pro-offered by vendors who are outside looking in. Actually, large enterprises are sensitive to lock-in. They end up locked-in anyway, but they don't like it. So these folks would like standards. Enough to buy another product? Probably not. But that's maybe the largest couple thousand customers out there anyway. Fact is, large enterprise will be laggards in deploying NAC, there is too much upgrading and political maneuvering required

What about everyone else? The unFORTUNEate five MILLION? They don't care. All they want to do is solve the problem. Protect the critical resources and make sure folks on the network should be there. They already have a lot of Cisco gear. So if Cisco says they solve the problem, these customers are likely to believe it. It doesn't matter whether it's bullshit or not. The customer wants to believe, so they will.

Alan closes his post with the insightful statement that we'll see a standard when the market demands one. That is absolutely true. But I'm with the Cisco rep he talked to. It'll be a cold day in hell when customers care enough to force Cisco's hand on this one.

 

Submitted by Alan Shimel (not verified) on Fri, 2006-09-29 12:38.
Mike - you are dead on here.  The fact is though some people are going to buy Cisco, not because they don't care about standards, but just because they buy everything Cisco has.  I tell my sales people not to waste their time on those accounts.  Then there are those who will really look for a best-of-breed (I know, goes against big is the new small) and then there are those that want to be rebels.  Bottom line is until standards such as TCG/TNC become real with real interoperability that you can point to, they are pretty worthless.  To that end, my guest this past week on the podcast was Steve Hana, Distinguished Engineer from Juniper/Funk and the co-chair of the TNC.  We discussed many of these issues and he had some interesting insight into them.  I will be posting the podcast early next week for listening on my blog.  Will give you a heads up on it, just waiting on some clearance from the TCG.
Submitted by sean (not verified) on Fri, 2006-10-06 02:08.
I've released an OpenSource NAC (see http://freenac.net) that currently uses MAC-Address authentication, but we are adding 802.1x and I've like to moved towards acomplete TNC Solution. I find your comments above interesting and disheartening, and if no standard is establish it will make it more difficult to make an OpenSource solution that will be accepted in corporate environments I think.

I'd appreciate you feedback (and your readers) on our product currently and what we've planned for the future.

Regards, Sean.

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