OK, so it's not a Pragmatic CSO podcast, but while the Mogull is away playing in a Hazmat suit [1], Martin enlisted the B team to help out on this week's Network Security Podcast [2].

I display my deft analyst skills in talking for 10 mintues straight without taking a breath, as we discuss all sorts of goodies, like Nate Lawson's toll booth attack, PCI 1.2 and other assorted topics.

Captain Privacy [3] makes a guest appearance. I also get to talk about the Pragmatic CSO and some of the research I'm working on.